Unbeatable Geranium stall combo [15]

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So for the first time in six months I have been unable to get past 6th stage of Mirage (level 208) due to geranium + bear + therapy combo. Tried lots of options including my own bear, bibi, calibur, apollon, but every time i am killed by stall heals + geranium bleed.

I think he needs serious nerfing as I cannot see a way to beat a tank/heal/geranium combo with any standard team. It makes mirage unwinnable if he is in opposition.

Any suggestions?

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Nazure 2019.05.31 16:56

1/
against mirage ruin, I suggest using team with 2 offense, a healer, a bomber. Last slot either defender or another bomb for passive buff.

2/
from your post, it seems tanker here is thunder bear, so the offense I suggest here is Fire-type Hermes / Heidi.; 2nd offense choice would be another Fire, or thunder...... (just no using water against Bear.

3/ stack rage-bar by using fire hitting red, switch out the healer in your team when first reach 4-rage, use the healer to tank geranium bomber skill...

I think you'd know what i mean, consider you reached 208 mirage by now.
good luck.

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thesurgeon 2019.05.31 18:30

I tried this strategy but healer dies from bleed/swap in and then no removing repeated bleed/stuns.

I eventually got through with 3 mixed blue/green teams in a row but nothing left to get past stage 7.

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Muskrat 2019.05.31 17:31

You need Therapy. However, I just had a whole party wipe on 3rd stage of level 221 so there you go. The new Nat 4* are really broken.

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Deneu 2019.05.31 18:44

Your answer is... Robin lol.

No, I'm actually serious. I'm using Robin for lvl250 mirage lol.

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thesurgeon 2019.06.01 00:47

Yes he's impressive maxed out. must invest in him

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Deneu 2019.06.01 11:27

Yup, I use Robin to tank gera's spec, and his self regen helps a lot.
I noticed gera's switch out spec targets the hunter at the left side most of the ornithopter, so hunter placement is important too. Bear/Erise is a good choice, bear cus of the self regen, erise cus she is unstunable.

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Deneu 2019.06.01 11:27

Yup, I use Robin to tank gera's spec, and his self regen helps a lot.
I noticed gera's switch out spec targets the hunter at the left side most of the ornithopter, so hunter placement is important too. Bear/Erise is a good choice, bear cus of the self regen, erise cus she is unstunable.

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Calludus 2019.05.31 19:22

This is my Mirage Strategy. I already reached Floor 250.

I only used T2 Twins, Joy, Therapy, Akasha and Pansy for all Non Boss Stages. Stages 3, 6 and 9 is situtational. There are times I can beat them with T2 Twins alone only if one defense and two offenses. If Harley and Erise are present, I change to T2 Twins T2 Windblade Levi Dino Patrone. They usually present on Stages 6 and 9. After each boss fights whenever hunter is injured I carried them and use healing to get ready for next stage until Stage 9.

My callt on the other hand also using Heidi instead of Twins throughout the stages. Since Geranium+Therapy, I got crazy team setups especially for stage 3 and 6. So yeah you need lots of hunters to carry on that consists of two attackers (should be all offense hunters), and 3 bombers. Any of them will do as long as you got advantage over against their main attackers too. Only during Stage 9, I used my most powerful hunter set that I used on Fight Club.

I took defeats as long as I'm concern they should be less health before decide to admit defeat.
Whenever I got mishaps especially enemy proc 4th consecutively, I forfeit them and try again.

Perhaps as an endgamer also got lots of well upgraded hunters, I would highly suggest to get Windblade and Twins at least T1 as possible and got all Lvl 50 Max Equips and 4xAtk+2xDef jewels Lvl 6-9 will do.
(Check my Ideal Jewel Stat Selection at Tips) Stun+Bleed+Speed Hunters are still the best. Twins Windblade and Chichi. Though never got into Chichi. I guess she's good. They designed Mirage for that now... Oof..

My strategy during battle:

Always face opponent with your advantage. If enemy is Bear, you should fight with Heidi/Hermes/Twins/Mary.. since AI usually use skill at Rage 4, time your skill at Rage 4.20 (.20 notes to as the hand of a clock)
After successfully land your skill, quickly switch to any bomber to receive Geranium skill (Highest defense points on bomber currently is Dino because he got 20% max fates and if fully equipped so he can sustain).
The enemy will then use skill on Geranium..
Ifs:
If Geranium 4th procs and switches back the previous attacker, just wait until stun subsides and Rage 4.20 then use skill to that enemy with your main attacker switched by him.
If Geranium 4th fails, after bomber received the damage, switch to another available main attacker and continue until Rage 5.20 then use skill until enemy will decide to switch out another hunter or enemy use Therapy.
If enemy 50% HP below, prepare for enemy Therapy to heal or enemy switched out.
..and use only your main attackers skills and repeat.
The downside always end up your hunters attacked by Geranium left at 1HP if not fast enough to kill them. It's either you have lots of hunters to spare if defeated with that stage or spend manda for revival.

Notes to remember.
Be aware if you took so long to damage below 50%, enemy front will then use skill.
1st enemy skill always a Bomber, 2nd is if not 50% HP below, it's still a bomber.
Be aware if you got Stun hunters, better use finishing skill move when about enemy 25% HP.
Utilize your healers. Pansy team healing higher than Akasha. Joy and Bruce good if have chance. Therapy is a must have so that enemy skill damage can't penetrate much because of her 5th skill Team Damage Reduction Block. Whether she use heal or just idle will do alongside with other healers. Akasha/Bruce, Joy, Pansy and Therapy are recommended healer sets.

Know your hunters capabilities. If that Mirage stage is too difficult, you must then go back to lower floors.
Mirage Floor 200+ are ruthless now since the emerge of 4★ particularly on to Genovia and current.
Forfeiting won't count as completed or knocked down all hunters so you can practice with them.

Haha for all of my long, neat comment you got, I hope you'll get some keypoints and hmm just get them through. I guess Blustone stages need to be an endgamer or a whale now lol.

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thesurgeon 2019.06.01 00:40

Thanks callu. This is very helpful

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Trixmatyr 2019.05.31 22:47

Have you tried the best solution of all?
Reset the floor

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thesurgeon 2019.06.01 00:45

Yeah that's how I tried all the team options.

Rather not wait 23h as I need boxes/equipment

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Apaya 2019.06.01 02:24

I recommend Robin, Bear, Dino, Levi, and Teddybomber deck.

Robin, Bear, and Teddybomber have to be 3 trans And all characters have to be well trained.

Bear is used because Geranium can make Robin to go back to airplane.

Use Robin skill to survive and use Teddy skill to kill the enemy.

It works in 250 floors.

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thesurgeon 2019.06.01 02:36

Nice setup. I hadn't considered teddy at high levels.

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Calludus 2019.06.01 11:15

Teddy 5th also has Enemy Team Damage Reduction Block Down that counters Therapy 5th also.
The good thing about Dino+Levi is ensuring enemy defence cut by 40%

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Manhdexom 2019.07.24 14:28

Im in 244 with just Nat1 hunters LOL :))(

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